And speaking of things getting better…

Have you moved into your new house since the last time you were on here? I don’t think you had yet.

I don’t think so.

Mom has moved closer to Jesse and Ally and my brother Braden. They both live on the north side of Kansas City. My mom used to live southeast of Kansas City.

So the farm was north, everyone was north, and she was southeast. It was a long drive from her house to the farm or to the boys.

Now she’s right next to Jesse and Ally so she can help with Summer. And Blair up here at the farm is only about 50 minutes away.

Yes. Casey and I will meet in Cameron and do the exchange.

And Casey and Cole used to never come down to the city. We used to ask what was wrong with them.

But now they come down all the time.

Yeah.

You’ve even had a couple sleepovers where Blair came over with Summer.

Has Summer slept over yet?

Summer hasn’t slept over yet, but I watch her a couple days a week.

Yeah.

Well I just love it.

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And we’ve had a really good time lately doing the Monday night lives.

It’s fun getting together as a family.

At first I said I didn’t want to do any lives. I’m not even on social media.

There was a podcast this morning where someone recapped the show and asked where they could find Mama McB on Instagram.

She’s not on Instagram.

I’m not. I’m only on TikTok.

And what’s funny is I got on TikTok just for recipes. Cooking videos. Home design ideas.

I didn’t even really think of it as social media at first. But it definitely is social media.

I’m actually glad I’m not on Instagram.

Can we talk about the TikTok situation?

I got banned from TikTok for a little bit.

There’s no denying I’m a mama’s boy. I’ve fully embraced that.

But let’s clear something up — I did not spoon feed you until you were 11 years old.

That was a dumb joke I said on Joe Millionaire. It was maybe seven.

Stephen, it was not seven. Do you know how old seven is? You were playing football at seven.

Okay, maybe not seven.

Exactly.

The internet turned it into a meme after TMZ picked it up.

I regret saying that. It was a lie. I was not spoon fed until 11.

How old was it then?

Honestly… maybe three. But it wasn’t all the time. Just occasionally when the food was hot and he didn’t want to move his hands from under the blanket.

See? Thank you.

It wasn’t what the internet makes it sound like.

But speaking of mama’s boy… I’ve gotten some hate online calling me a spoiled, entitled mama’s boy.

And my mom has decided it’s her duty to respond to the haters.

No I have not responded to all of them. I skip over most of them.

But I’ve seen screenshots of your responses on Reddit.

I’m trying to do better. It’s hard.

The problem is when people call me a spoiled mama’s boy and then you jump in to defend me… it kind of proves their point.

I know.

Mama bear comes out.

It’s hard when people judge your kids from a tiny clip on TV.

I want to jump in and say they have no idea what he’s actually like.

But I know that just makes it worse.

Exactly. That’s why I made you delete TikTok for a week.

You did.

There was an episode where you went after someone in the comments and I called you and said delete the app right now.

I knew I crossed the line.

But she’s back on TikTok now — trying not to respond.

I’m trying my best.

Just wait until those commenters have kids of their own.

What did you think about the scene where you and Galina met to talk?

That was incredibly awkward.

It was every bit as awkward as it looked on TV.

I almost hugged the waitress when she came over just to break the tension.

It had been five years since we had spoken.

But we all love Galina. She genuinely cares about everyone in the family.

She really would do anything for any of us.

Watching it back though, when she got mad at Masha…

A few years ago I might have been yelling at the TV. But enough time has passed now that I’m healed from it.

If she could do it over again, I don’t think she would have made the same decisions.

I don’t think so either.

All we can do is move forward. Holding on to bitterness doesn’t help anyone.

It’s actually freeing when you let go of that anger.

The last couple of years have really shown that.

Letting go changed everything for you.

Yes, it did.

There was also something else people commented about — your relationship with Uncle Jimmy.

Yes. People thought there was chemistry.

That’s because he’s basically my brother.

When he and Aunt Darla were building their house, they lived with us for a while.

They didn’t have kids yet. I might have just been pregnant with Cole.

So Jimmy and Darla lived with us and we became like siblings.

You’re still close with Aunt Darla too.

Yes. That’s why those comments are so funny to me.

We are literally like brother and sister.

But seeing everyone again during that trip did feel like the old days.

It was really healing for me.

After the divorce I had to cut off almost everyone from that side of the family just to get through it.

It wasn’t because I didn’t love them. I just needed distance.

You got married at 19. You grew up with them.

Exactly. They were my family too.

So reconnecting with them years later meant a lot.

But Nashville was definitely not drama-free like I promised you.

You promised there would be no drama.

I really believed that too. I told myself I would stay calm no matter what.

But things just escalated.

Cole had a lot bottled up and eventually he couldn’t hold it back anymore.

Alcohol doesn’t help in those situations either.

But the rest of the season ends with Jesse and Allie’s wedding.

We’re excited to watch that.

And honestly we don’t know what’s going to air because we watch the episodes live with everyone else.

It’s been an emotional roller coaster this season.

Some days you’re on top of the world, the next day you’re down in the dumps.

But we’ve leaned on each other through it.

And for me personally, coming back to the farm after so many years was very healing.

The last time I had been here was during Joe Millionaire — right after the divorce.

That was one of the hardest times in my life.

I remember telling you that you had no idea how hard that was for me.

And I really didn’t fully understand it back then.

But now things are different. Time heals a lot.

And being able to reconnect with family helped even more.

There were tough moments in season two, but there were also a lot of good ones.

And honestly the audience seems to really love you.

Most of the comments about you are positive.

The only negative thing people say is that you’re an overbearing mama bear.

Feeds her son until he’s 11.

Exactly. If that’s the worst thing people say about me, I’ll take it.

I know who I am as a mom and as a mother-in-law.

You’ve always cared about all of our girlfriends too. Even the ones we broke up with.

Some of them are still like daughters to you.

My feelings don’t just stop because you boys break up with someone.

I cared about all of them.

Except maybe one situation where nothing I did was ever good enough.

But we know the facts and that’s what matters.

And someday we’ll look back at all of this.

Ten years from now we’ll watch these episodes with the grandkids — maybe not the Ozarks episode though.

That one might stay in the archives.

But moments like Jesse and Allie’s wedding and the baby shower… those will be great to look back on.

Well thanks for coming on the podcast today.

I wish it was under better circumstances.

It’s been a hard day with Cole losing Cash.

So please take it easy on Cole today.

He’s hurting.

We love him. We’ll get through it together.

These podcasts will keep coming every Tuesday — even after the season ends.

We’ll have other cast members on. I promised Galina we’d bring her on soon.

She’s taken a lot of heat and deserves a chance to speak.

We’ll also start talking more about life on the farm and what’s coming next.

Before we go… did you notice the shirt and hat?

Yes I did.

We’ve got new merch on mcbfarms.com.

I’m actually really proud of these designs.

Also quick side note — before coming here I accidentally used Sika’s dog shampoo in the shower. Oatmeal dog shampoo.

I had to scrub three times with my own shampoo to try to get the smell out.

I still feel like I smell like a Quaker Oats box.

I don’t smell it.

Good. We’re far enough away then.

But the new shirts are oversized designs so nobody can say I’m wearing shirts that are too small anymore.

Look at this — the sleeve almost goes to my elbow.

Finally found shirts that fit me.

That’s what we’ve got listed on the website.

Go check it out.

Appreciate y’all.